Wednesday, September 21, 2011

How has the christian atitude to gender changed over the last 2000 years?

okay lemme just tell you what i heard come out of a so-called ';holiness'; preacher's mouth yesterday:



1. the reason the snake picked EVE over ADAM in the garden of Eden was because the snake knew eve would be more likely to ';leave God in the dust'; because she was the weaker sex, and intellectually inferior to adam.



2. the snake KNEW BETTER than to try and trick adam, because he knew adam would never fall for it and would never betray God.



3. any time a man gets into trouble, 9 times out of 10, there's a woman behind it.



4. if you ever want to get a man into trouble, put a woman on the job.



5. a woman's PLACE is in the home TAKING CARE OF her stonger, and intellectually superior counterpart. and that the sins of the world would be all but done away with if the women of the world actually stayed in their place.



well, if a man's so much stronger and smarter than a woman, why do they need the weak and feeble-minded to take care of them? are they not SMART enough, or STRONG enough to do it themselves?



i had such an urge to vomit all over this man. i'm best friends with his daughter, who has told me that none of his 5 children will hardly come anywhere near him anymore b/c they feel constantly ';bullied'; by him. his wife has contemplated suicide on more than one occasion b/c she believes that to be her only way out. that speaks VOLUMES about what a jackass this particular preacher is.



his daughter and i talked about this for hours yesterday... she said if he heard what i'd said about his ';sermon';, he'd tell me i was going to hell. i told her that i'd tell HIM, ';Well, at least you'll have company....';



ugh... pass the barf bag PLEASE!!!!How has the christian atitude to gender changed over the last 2000 years?
umm 0?

gender is how you are born



you know

male or female



or sometimes both but that is a rarityHow has the christian atitude to gender changed over the last 2000 years?
i don't think it has changed. It still amazes me that women are not put on the highest human pedestal in christian beliefs. If they believe what they claim to believe, the woman that God chose to birth his son should be the most important person of the faith, in my opinion.
Christians and Jews used to treat women hundreds of years ago like Muslim countries treat their women today: limit their activities, make them cover their heads, give more power to husbands, death for adultery, etc.
Well, how has the bible changed over the last 2000 years? It still has all of the negativity against women as it did before.



My husband and I are atheists. He respects me for who I am. His very xian brother, on the other hand, treats his wife like property. Tells her what she can and cannot do. He has ';rules'; for her - where she can go, who she can hang out with. And she as a ';good xian'; obeys it all. I still dont understand why she does it, but she says that her husband is her ';keeper.';
there is a lot of dancing around the truth.... more power to the women and men of the true christian faith.....
A little better, but still evident, as this quote from Pat Robertson will show:



';I know this is hard for the ladies to hear, but when you get married, you have accepted the headship of a man, your husband. Just like Christ is the head of the church, the husband is the head of the wife.';



And:



';Feminism isn't about equal rights for women. It's about making women leave their husbands, kill their children, practice witchcraft, and become lesbians.';



Let's not forgot the current assault of the Religious Right upon abortion rights, as well as the Southern Baptist Conference's policy forbidding women to be senior pastors, as that would put a woman above a man. Let's not forget the Catholic Church forbidding women to be priests of any position. And let's not forget the widespread homophobia of most of Christianity, which goes hand-in-hand with misogyny.
The New Testament does not have negative attitudes towards women, as a matter of fact, Jesus elevated women to an equal status with men, far beyond anything they had ever experienced prior to that time in all of history. If women, or any persons for that matter, are treated badly it's a result of SIN, the sin that dwells in all human beings. It's not the fault of the Bible or Christianity in general.



As far as Paul telling wives to be submissive to their husbands, that is a functional role, not a sign of inequality.

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